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1Jan/091

BBC HYS commenters: essentially just a soup of witless cunts

What's less well known about Mr Pavlov is that aside from having a dog who salivated when he dinged a bell, he also had a computer, from the future of course, set to read all the BBC Have Your Say questions. It was from that kneejerk cuntery of a response to any question whatsoever, involving the total and utter ignoring of anything said in it whatsoever leading to a predictable and laughably pisspoor stream of "NuLab have wrecked Britain" bullshit, that Pavlov actually got the idea of a Pavlovian response, and not from the dog at all. He just thought it would be easier to explain to plebs that way rather than by trying to get into the whole business about having a computer from the future, which was a very long story, and not a particularly interesting one when you got into it.

Anyway, one of the things Pavlov undoubtedly read from the future was today's BBC Have Your Say question. See how Auntie innocently sets up the Aunt Sally, attempting in vain to steer its readers in various directions that might provoke an interesting debate, only to see it turned into the usual utter tosswipery of balls, balls and more balls, the same shit written in a slightly different order. The same could be said of this blog, of course, and regularly is, but whereas I couldn't give a shit, you get the impression that these folk really do care about what they're saying - either that or there's a windswept pub in the middle of nowhere where the regulars, in between supping mouthfuls of Old Nobbler's Big Jobby, shuffle off to an anteroom to hoot with derision at those poor dribbling fools who rate their kite-flying hoax comments to the top of the pile. You say what you want, but there might be some merit in that.

Anyway, the question is:

What are your concerns for 2009?

But it's broken down further below. Look at the way the poor desk-chained BBC website drone who churned this bollocks out tried, oh how he or she tried, to make this something other than the usual tomato-chucker.

The economy has dominated the New Year's messages. What are your concerns for 2009?

Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, says that Britain faces an "enormous economic challenge" in 2009. In his podcast, he says that this year the government will offer "real help" to families and businesses.

Conservative leader David Cameron has also focussed on the economy saying that constructive help must be given to keep people in work and in their homes but he accused the government of wasting billions of pounds on "useless schemes" such as a temporary cut in sales tax.

Pope Benedict XVI has also called for "soberness and solidarity" in 2009. He said these times are "marked by uncertainty and worry for the future" but urged people not to be afraid and to help each other.

What are your concerns for 2009? What do you think about these New Year's messages? Have you made any resolutions? Have you already broken your resolutions?

So, a few different avenues to explore there. There's the general question about people's concerns for 2009, which could look at a wide spectrum of things, from war across the globe to Russia shutting off the gas to Ukraine, from the continuing strife in the Middle East to concerns about the environment. Then there are the specifics: Gordon Brown and David Cameron focussing on the economy, while gay-hating cunt Benedict 16 bleats on about some shit about being nice to each other, unless you're a bit of a whoopsie, obviously, and then ye shall burn in hayall. And then at the end another strand added to the debate, about new year resolutions. So it's quite a complex question, setting the dogs a-running and offering the commenters a wide variety of things they could branch out into discussing.

Or not:

I want the people of this country to get off their backsides, revolt & ensure this corrupt administration looks after the people who work, pay taxes & fund this nanny state they have created.

I'm looking forward to seeing the end of what surely must be the most corrupt and dispised government in british history.

I'm concerned that the same morons who have been in charge the last 11 years will still be in charge at the end of the year.

I just wish 2009 to be the year that the UK will oust the labour government ( whom i voted for ) once and for all , rid us of the pc brigade , and lets get the vote aye or nay for the EU, time to stand up for ourselves and our country .

Quick! Get the PC Brigade out! They're taking over the world! People actually believe this shit; I really think they do. I really do think they think there is such a thing as the PC Brigade, which really exists, and which has infiltrated the world with leftie ideas which have destroyed our once-great country, innit. It's amazing. But people really think it. The governments move ever more to the right, and people can only ever see them as a bunch of leftie do-gooders. It's an incredible phenomenon.

He and his fraudster gangster cronies, the bankers and hedge funds, must all be ejected from office and subject to the criminal investigations they rightly deserve. Look at what happened to Iceland - WE ARE NEXT WITH MASSIVE NULAB DEBTS - expect sterling to be virtually worthless this year.

Ah, the 'NuLab' avalanche begins:

My concern for 2009 is the communist leader, Mr Brown, who hasn't actually been voted into power by anybody except his own party, and has not called an election yet, as 'promised'.

The tears roll down your face after a while. Is there some sort of template somewhere (apart from speak youre branes) that just creates this shit? It's amazing.

I'm concerned that Brown and Co will continue to screw up the economy making it that much harder for the Tories to repair the damage ZaNew Labour have done since 1997.

Not much mention of anything other than the evils of New Labour, so far. In the same vein that every other BBC HYS discussion ever seems to take. Surely it can't all be the same shit? Oh... wait... I'm getting news that yes, in fact, it can:

My concern is that NuLab will not call an election and keep on messing everything up and plunge the UK further into debt and continue to make us a laughing stock....

Concerns?
That Nulab will still be in power.
More questionable policies
Nulab will impose more useless laws.

More useless laws? That doesn't sound like something to be too concerned about, does it? I mean, a useless law is kind of a fairly neutral thing isn't it? A waste of time, I grant you, but hardly something to be worried about.

And finally, may I give you this, perhaps the finest example of BBC HYS I've ever seen in my life. Is it a parody? Is it a bit of silliness? I'd say no; I'd say the chuntering turd who raised his ham-like fists to bash out this on his keyboard really, really meant it:

Gordon Brown will remain in power
Gordon Brown will elect himself president
Gordon Brown will become King of England
Gordon Brown will become the Pope
Gordon Brown will become the Archbishop of Canterbury
Gordon Brown will become God
Gordon Brown will save the world for the millionth time
Gordon Brown will remain in dreamland for evermore

Beautiful. Tomorrow's BBC HYS discussion: What do you think of the Israel-Palestine war? IT'S ALL GORDON MCBOTTLER AND ZANEWLAB'S FAULT!

16Sep/084

HYS debate in ‘not full of nutcases’ shocker

When the dribbling armies of plankton who usually patrol the BBC Have Your Say messageboards can't get mobilised for a topic, you can sometimes find that reasonable, sane and even articulate posts reach the top of the charts, as opposed to the more expected "Get McBroon out! Nick Griffin for teh win!" nonsense that you see time after time.

Here's a case in point, a debate about Liberal Democrat tax plans. The rabid hatebots of HYSville couldn't get themselves organised to promote a particular agenda here - either that or they got so bored seeing the words 'Lib Dems' that they couldn't be bothered to write anything. So instead of the usual toss at the top of the most recommended charts, you see stuff like

Any party that will introduce a fair tax system to Britain will get my vote.
The super rich have been avoiding paying tax while
the lazy & feckless have been getting an easy ride for far too long.
This is why those of us who work for a living have been getting shafted for so much.
Lowering taxes for the middle/working classes would help the economy for everyone while reducing the burden on those people who are trying to take care of themselves & their family.
Ben platt, Liverpool, United Kingdom

What in the wide world of sports? Surely you're not trying to advocate the 'failed experiment of Socialism' or 'Stalinist economics' of taxing the super-rich slightly more? Blimey, a disgrace! Amazing scenes!

Yes I support them, the lib-dems are standing up for the working man, and they seem to be the only ones doing it. I want decent healthcare and I'm willing to pay the taxes. I just want to actually see something for it. Under labour my taxes have risen and I seem to get nothing for it. I don't want my money back, I want what I was promised in the first place: decent public services.
I'm not saying they're perfect. I like to think of them as the worst political party, apart from all the others.
Proud Lefty, Norfolk, United Kingdom

Eh...? What sorcery is this? How did 'Proud Lefty' get a BBC login? Doesn't (s)he know that you should call yourself "ENGLISH AND PROUD" and say your location is "ENGLAND (NOT EU)"?

I like this. I support any party who would make those WORKING on the lowest wages pay less tax, and subsidise it through a) not so many hand-outs to none workers and b)the super super rich.
Beth fiarweather

Astonishing stuff. Isn't it interesting that a lot of people think that taxing the rich more is a good idea? Not just hard-left nutjobs like me, either. People from all over the political spectrum do think that. It may not even be a bad idea. Who knows? Well, we'll never find out, anyway.

But there's always one to spoil the party:

The super Rich have earned their monies fairly and are entitled to it. If you tax them too much they'll do a Lewis hamilton and simply leave. If they all leave what happens to the economy then?
You ppl moan cos you have rubbish jobs that pay rubbish money cos you dont have an education, get an education and you might just make more than minimum wage and have the sense to understand the econimics behind wealth.
Infact the so called 'super rich' are prob the reason you're still surviving. T
Paul E

I imagine that was probably typed up and sent in by someone's PA while a jowly cunt in a £500 tie stared out at the Gherkin, but I could well be wrong, as I frequently am. Anyway, it's been a reasonably er, reasonable debate, and that's always welcome.

25Aug/082

More evidence of the BBC’s liberal-left bias

Look at this discussion about 'Britishness' on the Have Your Say forum.

Recommended by 4 people is this:

Being British is embracing the diversity of this great country.
Every part of the World is represented here in one way or another. This is the largest melting pot in the World and we should be proud of it. Why?
Why, because it gives us the vital opportunity to see that we are all fundamentally different but culturally different at the same time. For centuries whole coutries have fought eachother for being different. By living together side by side we will see we are all the same...
Charles Don, London, United Kingdom

Recommended by 175 people is this:

Being British means getting ripped of by an incompetent government, who tax you to the hilt in order to try and cover the colossal amount of money they waste on a daily basis.
Being British means being the dumping ground for people who are cannot live in their own country, and having to pay to support these people whether we want to or not.
Being British means being told we have the right to free speech, so long as the words are government approved.
Being British sucks.
Bigotry is also a diversity, Multicultural Hellhole, United Kingdom

I like that phrase 'bigotry is also a diversity'. I'd add: 'racism is also a minority'. Not that you'd know it from web discussions like that, though...