Gordon’s a loony! rofl
It's dismally disappointing, the reaction to the Gordon Brown / Andrew Marr bit about 'painkillers'. Whether it was a rehearsed question which had been agreed with Brown in advance, we'll never know. But the Prime Minister answered in the negative. He said he didn't take pills, and besides, his eyesight was fine.
What I would have preferred from Brown would have been something along the lines of: "Look, you spoddy egg-faced public school arsewipe, what the fuck business is it of yours or anyone's whether I have one of the most common problems in the world, one which millions upon millions of people - including voters - deal with on a daily basis, without fuss, without having their judgements called into question, quite rightly without thinking of themselves as lesser human beings? Why the fuck should it matter? The kind of juvenile playground whispering is an extraordinary disgrace, one which was started by Alastair "I'm really sensitive to the needs of people with mental health issues, honest guv" Campbell, who claimed I was 'psychologically flawed' and has now been taken on by the kind of giggling cunts who leave their murky turds in Guido's comment boxes. What the fuck does it matter? So what if I've got depression? What of it? The name Churchill ring a bell to you? Does it, Marr? Or should we only have shit Prime Ministers so long as they're not prone to conditions which afflict millions of others, superhuman politicians who must be eugenically screened to ensure they don't fall below the impeccable standards of the kind of master race we apparently must have as politicians; I mean heaven forbid they might actually be real people who have real illnesses, complaints and conditions the same as everyone else in the world. Fuck Churchill, JFK and FDR; they'd be dumped on the scrapheap according to the arbitrary rules which we should apparently now be applying to our elected leaders, who supposedly mustn't be in any way representative of the populations they serve but should, somehow, be superior beings who are in no way troubled by the stain of being living, breathing creatures with all the potential problems that might bring about. What is it that you and the infantile wankers calling me mental behind my back want? Someone who lives, and breathes, and feels, like the rest of you? Or a steely automaton who has no capability to feel anything? One minute I'm too fucking cold; the next I'm too sensitive and fragile. Well make your fucking minds up you odious bunch of shitwads. Which is it to be? Politicians who are human, and who are perfectly capable of dealing with something like depression by using medication? Or politicians who exhibit the kind of psychopathic coldness and inability to be prone to real life that could lead to genuinely catastrophic errors taking place? By all means, call me a useless bastard - God knows I am. But calling me mental? Fuck you."
But no. He just said 'no' instead.
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September 28th, 2009 - 12:08
It's important if the electorate say it's important. That's all. And he probably won't find a more on-side, friendly, supportive interrogator than Marr to ask it.
September 28th, 2009 - 12:25
I'm shocked and surprised that Campbell started the speculation on this, after all the little arsewipe used to write for The Mirror the "news"paper that never ever uses terms like loony or nutjob.
Of course it would be a lot more worrying if Brown did suffer from depression and wasn't taking meds or receiving treatment (personally I prefer the med free approach, but then I'm not PM) for it.
September 28th, 2009 - 12:47
I'm sure he thought it though.
September 28th, 2009 - 13:00
Anton, you brighten my day every day
September 28th, 2009 - 13:12
*standing ovation*
September 28th, 2009 - 14:15
I sat there thinking who gives a fuck? Really! And couldn't believe his eyesight was also made an issue.
September 28th, 2009 - 15:30
If only that had been his answer…
September 28th, 2009 - 15:38
As Tvtropes would put it, that posting was made of win.
September 28th, 2009 - 16:21
Well since you've brought up Campbell, I don't think he should have chaired the Joint Intelligence Committee that decided that the utterly specious 45-minute claim was true. Partly because he wasn't qualified for such a post (previous highlights in his career had been making shit up for the Mirror), but mostly because I don't think depressives are the best people to be making life or death decisions.
Churchill was an exception as you say. But he had a very strong cabinet (which Brown doesn't have), and we're simply not that deferential. Maybe we've lost somethings, but, by making MPs more accountable, and by knowing what sort of people we've elected, we've gained much more.
Anyway, Brown wasn't asked about anti-depressants. He was asked about pain-killers. And there's a difference. The depression rumour isn't the only one going about. Brown is increasingly unpopular in the Labour Party, and he certainly could have allowed himself to retire through ill health. (I can't remember where I read that particular bit of speculation.) Brown, wrongly IMO, has squashed that option.
Also, what Rory said about Marr. Marr's a good bloke.
September 28th, 2009 - 16:49
You wouldn't want a depressive making life or death decisions? Why not? Because they're all going to kill themselves? Fucking grow up, you baby.
September 28th, 2009 - 16:51
Is this some sort of idiot overspill from the Lib Con piece on this?
September 28th, 2009 - 18:14
Personally, I don't trust left-handed people. It seems to me that someone who writes, throws and eats predominantly with their left hand doesn't have the requisite experience of the right-handed world to be making life or death decisions.
Idiot.
September 28th, 2009 - 19:34
That was very good Anton, but sadly if Brown did get angry at being asked personal questions, the media would label him a loony for not getting how bone-headedly stupid British discourse has become.
I can just see David Cameron's horrid, slimy face as he recites his prescripted lines, 'Oh Gordon's a bit of a loony, oops, that's not politically correct now is it'?
And Christ Grayling would be saying 'You know that popular TV series about loonies that I don't watch? Well Gordon's just like a character in that'.
September 29th, 2009 - 09:52
That would have been a good answer but it would have required some balls.