Enemies of Reason Poundshop potshots at the media moral maze.

Well yes, when you look at it that way…

The laughable shit about a ‘police state’ from the Vermin — if it wasn’t so funny I’d hunt the fuckers down and strangle the cunts with my cold bare hands. The criminality displayed by these swine and the utter disregard for their own fucking rules is — I was going to say astonishing — but it isn’t is it? It’s to be expected of them.

That said, and it's certainly worth remembering the Tories' longstanding commitment to police statery, Damian Green has still not been charged with anything, as far as I'm aware. And is therefore totally innocent, and will be totally innocent, until and unless he's convicted of an offence before a jury of his peers. I might think he's a vile turd, and I'm pretty sure he is, but that doesn't mean he's done anything, nor that the offence he was arrested over is anything other than an affront to democracy.

This whole sorry story exposes the way in which journalists report news around crime and especially terror arrests, which goes like this:

1. Person arrested.
2. Off-record briefings from rozzers to friendly hacks, detailing all the (unproven) allegations and accusations, including fantasy ideas about what they might have done, had they been a bit weirder and more guilty than not.
3. Millions of unchecked stories (tipoff from copper = no libel danger, hooray!) slagging off arrested person.
4. Eventually, oh, maybe they didn't do it, bastards. Bugger. PCZaNuLieBore gawn mad! Littletalent explodes in his bi-curiousweekly rant at the naughtiness of it all, explaining that ordinary Brits (in his gated Florida compound) are incensed by it all.

Though obviously, we know which side we're on when it's a top Tory having his door booted in by plod rather than a terror "suspect".

Anyway, even the evil BBCCCP have allowed a Have Your Say for the tinfoil hatters and anti-NuLab grumblers alike to have a crack. Ten points for a pointless mention of Stalin, 20 for demanding a resignation, 30 for slagging off the BBC as being somehow involved in a leftie conspiracy. Let's see how they get on:

An anti-democratic, anti-civil liberty attitude is perculating into our society, driven by the stance of this government. They are willing to trample on our rights in the name of security, and yet they use their legislation for purposes completely unrelated to terror (silencing the fellow at the labour party conference, arresting journalists and MPs, seizing bank assets). OK, this isn't Zimbabwe or even China by a long way, but our tradition stands up for freedom. Jacqui Smith should resign.
Christoph, Witney

Hooray!

I think it is strange that the BBC has waited this long to start a 'have your say' on this very controversial issue
suffolkjennywren, Sudbury

Yes! Isn't it? The bastards!

Apparently the man, noted for his attention to detail, and a "micro-manager" sans pareil, had no "prior knowledge". That MAY indeed be true, but I find it very difficult, if not impossible to accept.
Stalin is dead, but the Spirit of Stalin is alive, and stalking the corridors of Whitehall.
Be afraid, be very afraid.
[KafkasGhost]

Hooray!

Does anyone believe Ms Jaquci Smiths feeble protestations that she knew nothing of this raid ?
I think not, it's common knoweldge her ultimate goal is to establish a police state and silence all opposition to her loony policies. That this outrage was perpetrated using anti terror legislation is all the proof I need that we are one step closer to her fascist master plan. Damian Green is simply lucky Jaqucis fascist thugs didn't kick his door down at dawn and lock him up without charge.
Joe Bunting, Birmingham, United Kingdom

Ooh, fascist, that's a new one.

So, constitutional expert Vernon Bogdanor of Oxford University said the row was a "storm in a teacup".
I suspect Joe Stalin would have uttered something along the same lines.
Tommy Ruffe, England

I think double points for Stalinising someone who just happened to slightly not make the full-blooded attack on McBroon that is so clearly demanded.

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