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I wondered the other day if the Mail's comment policy had been relaxed. I believe it has. But I believe I can prove the reason why it was so tight in the first place. Maybe the Mail knew the levels of disgusting subhumanity its readers were capable of.

Exhibit A: Quentin Letts says that Guardian readers are heartless bastards for comments about Thatcher not deserving a state funeral. "How dare leftie pro-Cuba scumbag bastards who are all evil wish death upon another person?" says Letts, in a restrained and carefully thought-out piece.

Exhibit B: Mail readers comment on the death of a Roma child in Italy and the racist anti-Roma laws enacted by the Berlusconi regime.

Of course, if you believe Letts's view, Mail readers will be much more compassionate and intelligent than those Guardianista scum, and won't revel in the death of...

Oh.

I cannot quite understand what is so horrendous about the two people sitting on the beach. They were sat upright and looking towards the bodies. These could have been the same people who rescued the other two children (and dragged these poor children out)and indeed may have been watching over the bodies till the authorities came. Surely it would have been worse had they just left the scene? Perhaps they were understandably upset and it did not occur to them to dress up. Pictures can be so misleading...were the people interviewed?
- Chris, limavady, 26/7/2008 2:49

What's wrong with sunbathing near a corpse? Don't we all...?

I spend a lot of time in Brazil and it is a similar thing, Italy is a third world country and Brazil has many Italians. I remember how a body was found and dragged from a Lagoon recently, it did not matter a bit, the people continued to party and swim in the area were the body was found laughing and joking. Life in third world countries is worth much less and people are clambering over each other to get ahead. Very sad.
- Sean, Brazil & UK, 26/7/2008 3:33

Bloody wops!

Here we go the do gooders in their expensive houses and wealthy pay-packets living far from the effects of mass immigration from all parts of the globe. Whining by proxy and mouthing the standard left wing jibes of racism and fascism.
The normal Italian citizen caught up in the excesses of uncontrolled immigration has had enough and their government " feels their pain" and is endeavouring to relieve the pressure on a situation which could erupt into countrywide violence.
They have additional pressures of hundreds of Africans turning up every day on their beaches.
I strongly suspect that much of the whining comes from countries that fear an influx of these people into their own countries when Italy puts their own citizens first. Nothing like self interest - let Italy deal with the problem and don't pass them onto us-
Like here - at the moment to a lesser extent the more of those already here who find it comfortable the more that will come.
- john chambers, melton mowbray, 26/7/2008 6:06

Pure evil.

Racism is alive and well and always will be, especially when governments allow outsiders into your home country threatening your very livelihood and in some cases even your life.
Multiculturalism doe's not work and governments are not listening...a recipe for disaster.
- Mickey V, Manchester UK, 26/7/2008 7:39

Classic argument: 'racism is the fault of the wogs'.

What were the people on the beach supposed to do, pack up and go home ?
Unlike the victims, they had probably worked long and hard to be able to afford their brief holiday.

'Only this week, the Italian parliament authorised six-year prison sentences for immigrants who lie about their identity, and instigated the deportation of foreigners who have been given any prison sentence of two years or more.'

Unlike Britain who take the lid of the benefits jar and say ' help yourself , there's plenty more where that comes from "
- david Kendall, st Helens, 26/7/2008 8:10

The dark heart of the Mail reader revealed.

Ask anyone on the tube what they think of the way these Roma gypsies celebrate their cultural identity...
- Mark, Chorley, UK, 26/7/2008 8:19

The Tube goes all the way to Chorley now, does it? Blimey, that's what I call a Northern Line.

Nobody likes to hear reminders of their fascist pasts.
- Callum Durrutti, London, 26/7/2008 8:29

Subtle, that one. Could Callum be referring to "Hurrah for the Blackshirts" by Jonathan Harmsworth's dad?

know a couple of Italians living in Rome, and the crimes committed by people with an ethnic background unfortunately overwhelms that committed by locals. Besides, children who are sent by their parents to steal from tourists or local in the city, and are caught by the police, have to be released almost immediately if they claim they do not know who their parents are.
I would not be too quick to label a city 'fascist'.
- Joseph Grima, Pieta, Malta, 26/7/2008 9:08

"I know a couple of people and they say that 'Roma are all scum and isn't it a shame that Hitler didn't kill more of them?' so that's what I think. And besides they're all beggars and evil bastards and scum so their lives aren't really equivalent to ours. But that's not fascism, obviously, let's make that clear."

whilst not approving of racism, the problems in Italy from these people are huge, I was only there 2weeks, but was constantly approached by young children for money, with their parents in the background forcing them to beg. An uneducated underclass is being formed as the children are not being sent to school. Do not condemn the government for at least doing something.
- kg, Chester. England, 26/7/2008 9:11

"I've said I'm not racist, therefore whatever I say isn't racist, no matter what it is"

Good for Italy, they are one of the very few countries that have the guts to do anything about these vermin. Until you have experienced what these thieves are like, you cannot comment on any hardship or sympathy that they may deem to want.
- Mike Jones, Farnborough, Hampshire, 26/7/2008 9:30

'Vermin' is a word often attached to gypsy and Roma people by cunts like Mike. And of course they're all thieves and criminals as well, they just are.

I just cant believe how blinkered, and in denial these left-wing correspondents are.
Do they feel any responsibility to the thousands of families of crime by these people, what about their rights.
Maybe like some left wing people I know are do-gooding while they don't live among it but for some strange reason change their minds when its moved to their area and it affects them, maybe lefty columnists may do the same.
- david fish, orsett thurrock essex, 26/7/2008 9:34

Yeah, they're scum. If you don't live there you can't judge... well unless you're from Essex obviously, and then you can.

So it's not just the UK which has to 'celebrate' multi-cultural diversity, courtesy of the EU.
- Lickyalips, Richmond, Surrey, 26/7/2008 10:07

Ah Lickyalips, our BNP friend makes a return to the Mail boards to spread his disgust at people being treated with compassion and humanity. Cunt.

I'm, in no way, condoning what Italy is doing, but these people are parasites. They need to get educated and employment and assimilate into civilized society. It's year 2008 for God's sake.
- Olga, Los Angeles, USA, 26/7/2008 10:23

"These people are parasites" - really chilling echoes of how the Jews (and Roma, let's not forget) were viewed by the Fascists.

At the risk of going all Barry Scheck, how about THAT Quentin Letts? How about that? Is it really the evil lefties who are heartless scum, or your beloved Mail-reading friends who classify racial groups of other human beings as 'parasites' and 'vermin'?

Here's the real reason why the Mail holds back so many comments: if it lets more through, many more callous, nasty, vile and racist views are put forward, putting its readers in an appalling light. But I say: bring it on. The more we see the way these people really think the better. These folk may always couch their poison in terms of 'I don't like racism but I hate blacks and Muslims' but the veil is so thin now it's almost invisible.

Let's see more of the real face of Mail readers. Let's see their spite, hatred, misanthropy and hatred for other human beings in all its glory. Let's see what kind of people really read the Mail.

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